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The Tcl War | Glenn Vanderburg
The Tcl War
In late September, 1994, Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation posted an article to comp.lang.tcl
and several other newsgroups titled Why you should not use Tcl. Predictably, a flamewar ensued, which lasted in one form or another for almost a month (until it was pre-empted by the GNU project's announcement of plans for its own extension language, later dubbed GUILE).
Like most flamewars, there was much heat and little light. However, there was some light, and as the maintainer of the Tcl bibliography (which attempts to be very thorough), I took it upon myself to archive the interesting posts, partly to give the bibliography entry something to point at, and also to provide a balanced perspective: it seemed likely, even at the beginning, that the GNU project would archive Stallman's original article and redistribute it without the many reasonable rebuttals which appeared.
Although I tried to take a neutral perspective, and saved articles espousing diverse points of view, this selection unavoidably reflects my own prejudices. Included are a few articles which contain nothing but a snappy comeback. I missed a few important articles, such as one by Bill Janssen which started an entire lengthy subthread. And naturally, all of my own posts are included.
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Starting: Sun 25 Sep 1994 - 06:14:14 CST
Ending: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 01:02:03 GMT
Messages: 68
- Why you should not use Tcl Richard Stallman
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Barry Merriman
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Dan Connolly
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Ron Natalie
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Dirk Grunwald
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Robert DeLine
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Drew Justin Asson
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Rob Savoye
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Thomas Werthmann-Auzinger
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** John Ousterhout
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Peter da Silva
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Wayne Throop
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Wayne Throop
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Robert DeLine
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Mumit Khan
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Peter da Silva
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Wayne Throop
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** T. William Wells
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Wayne Throop
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Mark Harrison
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** George M. Sipe
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Wayne Throop
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Sharon Hopkins
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Wayne Throop
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Tom Christiansen
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Tim Bunce
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Matthias Neeracher
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Wayne Throop
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Glenn Vanderburg
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Tom Christiansen
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Wayne Throop
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Jeff Dalton
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Barry Merriman
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Tim Pierce
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Barry Merriman
- **Re: Why you should not use Tcl ** Glenn Vanderburg
- **Re: Comments in Tcl (Was: Why you should not use Tcl)** Peter da Silva
- **Comments on "Why you should not use Tcl"** Adam Sah
- **Re: Comments on "Why you should not use Tcl" ** Wayne Throop
- **Re: Look into libscheme - was Re: Why you should not use Tcl** Tom Christiansen
- **Re: Look into libscheme - was Re: Why you should not use Tcl** Andrew McCallum
- **Tcl has (has not) got arrays ?!?!?!** Tom Lord
- **Critical review of Stk [Was: Why you should not use Tcl]** Dan Connolly
- **Re: extensibility (was: Why you should not use Tcl)** Ian Moor
- **Re: extensibility (was: Why you should not use Tcl)** Wayne Throop
- **Re: extensibility (was: Why you should not use Tcl)** Kevin B. Kenny
- **Re: Tcl/Lisp/Python: A "User" point of view** John Ousterhout
- **Integration of libscheme and Tcl (announce)** Kathi Fisler
- **Re: An alternative to Tcl, python, etc...** Mario J. Silva
- **Re: An alternative to Tcl, python, etc...** Josef Dalcolmo
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** bruce@liverpool.ac.uk
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Thomas Funke
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Brent Welch
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Glenn Vanderburg
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Niels P. Mayer
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Wayne A. Christopher
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Larry W. Virden
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Larry W. Virden
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Robert Sanders
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Tom Tromey
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Robert Withrow
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Peter da Silva
- **Re: Why Tcl is a Bad Thing** Steven D. Majewski
- **Tcl does not support linked lists- technical commentary.** Adam Sah
- **linked lists in Tcl, part II.** Adam Sah
- **Re: linked lists in Tcl, part II. ** Peter da Silva
- **Re: linked lists in Tcl, part II. ** Peter da Silva
Last message date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 01:02:03 GMT
Archived on: Fri Feb 10 1995 - 18:04:38 CST
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