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# Why Google Employees Quit

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In 2008 Google HR set up a private Google Group to ask former employees why they left the company. We've been forwarded what appears to be authentic posts to the thread by a number of ex-Googlers, which we reprint below minus identifying information other than their first names.

The thread shows a brutal honesty about what it's like to work at Google, at least from the point of view of employees who were unhappy enough to resign. Top amongst the complaints is low pay relative to what they could earn elsewhere, and disappearing fringe benefits seemed to elevate the concern. Other popular gripes – too much bureaucracy, poor management, poor mentoring, and a hiring process that took months.

A few of the posts are more positive, and frankly there isn't a whole lot here that you don't see in other big companies.

One message stands out though in most of the posts – employees thought they were entering the promised land when they joined Google, and most of them were disappointed. Some of them wondered if it meant they were somehow lacking. One person sums it all up nicely:

> Those of us who failed to thrive at Google are faced with some pretty serious questions about ourselves. Just seeing that other people ran into the same issues is a huge relief. Google is supposed to be some kind of Nirvana, so if you can't be happy there how will you ever be happy? It's supposed to be the ultimate font of technical resources, so if you can't be productive there how will you ever be productive?

The full thread is below.

From: Stephen  
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:25:07 -0700 (PDT)  
Local: Wed, May 28 2008 2:25 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

Actually, I hit the Send button on this before I intended to.  
I left Microsoft to work for Google in 2005. I stayed 10 months. I  
was demoralized. I shouldn't have ever taken that job. I was  
disenchanted the whole time, and yes, like you, my regret over the  
poor bargain I'd made affected my performance.

As I was saying. Google actually celebrates its hiring process, as if  
its ruthless inefficiency and interminable duration were a sure proof  
of thoroughness, a badge of honor. Perhaps it is thorough. But I  
would be willing to wager that Microsoft's hiring process, which takes  
a fraction of the time, does not result in a lower-skilled workforce  
or result in a higher rate of attrition. And let me say this: if  
Larry Page is still reviewing resumes, shareholders should organize a  
rebellion. That is a scandalous waste of time for someone at that  
level, and the fact that it's "quirky" is no mitigation.

I was, like you, offered a considerable pay cut to go to work at  
Google. The relocation package was lame. So were the benefits. (I  
had worked at Microsoft. Microsoft was self-insured, so there were no  
co-pays.)

In one TGIF in Kirkland, an employee informed Eric Schmidt that  
Microsoft's benefits package was richer. He announced himself  
genuinely surprised, which genuinely surprised me. Schmidt, in the  
presence of witnesses, promised to bring the benefits to a par. He  
consulted HR, and HR informed him that it'd cost Google 22 million a  
year to do that. So he abandoned the promise and fell back on his  
tired, familiar standby ("People don't work at Google for the money.  
They work at Google because they want to change the world!"). A  
statement that always seemed to me a little Louis XIV coming from a  
billionaire.

I still can't recall all the moralizing postures without a shudder of  
disgust.

From: Ben  
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:43:09 -0700  
Local: Wed, May 28 2008 3:43 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

Stephen wrote:  
> He  
> consulted HR, and HR informed him that it'd cost Google 22 million a  
> year to do that. So he abandoned the promise and fell back on his  
> tired, familiar standby ("People don't work at Google for the money.  
> They work at Google because they want to change the world!"). A  
> statement that always seemed to me a little Louis XIV coming from a  
> billionaire.

I ran into a similar irritation while at Google, actually – during that  
time when the minikitchens were being stripped heavily. I heard that one  
of the reasons was cost – I remember figures mentioned like "thousands  
of dollars per day" – and it just didn't jive well with me.

I mean, look at the profit numbers. Google's net income for 2006, when I  
left, was 3 billion. 22 million a year? Less than 1% of their *profit*.  
"Thousands of dollars a day"? Even if it's ten thousand, that's still  
well under 1%.

Reduce profit by 2% to make your employees much happier . . . well, I  
know what I'd choose. In some ways it seemed like Google was getting  
increasingly pennywise/poundfoolish, and that just seemed like a dubious  
situation.

(Although, to Google's credit, they opened up a new cafe that solved  
many of my food-related issues . . . after I left. Sigh.)

-Ben

From: Ted  
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:39:06 -0700 (PDT)  
Local: Wed, May 28 2008 6:39 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

Sounds familiar (I was at Kirkland too.)  
Google took longer than any company I ever worked for to get thru the  
hiring process (approx 5 months from resume to job start.)

The interview process was very mixed: They had me slated as a Windows  
Developer for some reason, tho everyone on my interview loop wondered  
why. I flubbed my first coding pretty bad but after that it was clear  
that no-one on my interview loop had enough experience or knowledge to  
level me. On the other hand they figured that out and scheduled a  
follow on interview with the head of the Kirkland office who asked  
reasonable and pertinent questions.

Unlike the previous posters, I was happy with my salary and (for some  
reason I can't articulate) I kept my own private medical insurance…

Also I was surprised that Google seemed to be proud that they didn't  
communicate from one interviewer to the next: at Microsoft it was a  
good opportunity to find more appropriate interviewers, etc. if a  
person seemed misslated. Oh well, I thought my interview and hiring  
process was an anomaly.

From: Laurent  
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:10:08 -0700 (PDT)  
Local: Thurs, May 29 2008 9:10 am  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

I also left Google after only 5 months.

As soon as I got inside, I had the feeling of being swallowed by a  
giant borg :)

Really, I felt like I didn't exist, watching people buzzing around  
with laptops.

I did however meet with Larry and Sergey during a product review  
meeting, and have only good things to say about these 2 guys.

Regarding compensation, I did have to negotiate quite a bit to get on  
par with what I earned before.

For options however, I didn't get much (something like 180 options and  
330 gsu).

What was strange with me at Google was: while outside, I had all these  
big ideas I could do if I ever worked there.

Once inside, you have 18,000 (at the time, Feb 2008) other googlers  
thinking the same things.

I think it's a good move for them to have App Engine: they won't need  
to hire that many people anymore, or buy small garage-guys because  
now developers will be able to develop over the Google OS for free for  
Google :)

One last thing: Google also thinks inside a box (the browser). I felt  
this a lot, and was another reason I left. (too constrained)

It's no surprise that they push to extend what the browser can do.  
(Gears, Earth plugin)

Cheers.

From: "shuba  
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 22:01:06 -0500  
Local: Wed, May 28 2008 9:01 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

Hi Friends,

Yes, I do agree with Stephen about HR. I totally second the statement that  
Google's Hiring process is slack. Agreed, they receive a record number of  
applications everyday, but still the feeling that the resume is lost in a  
'black hole' when there is no reply in as long as 6 months, is terribly  
disappointing. Also, the whole exit process could be bettered and ironed  
out.

I understand when Eric Schmidt says, one doesn't work for Google for the  
money alone. Job with Google is sure an experience. But, yes, bringing the  
perks on par with other bigwigs will bring down the attrition level to some  
extent, thou we all do understand that attrition is not a big problem for  
Google right now.

Keep writing!

Shuba.

From: Shelby  
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:26:39 -0700 (PDT)  
Local: Thurs, May 29 2008 11:26 am  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

I had an equally ridiculous hiring process – although mine actually  
seemed normal (by Google standards) until the result. "And let me  
say this: if Larry Page is still reviewing resumes, shareholders  
should organize a rebellion. That is a scandalous waste of time for someone at that  
level, and the fact that it's "quirky" is no mitigation. " – this  
couldn't be more true.

My experience actually in Aug. 2004 when I was interviewing for a  
sales position in the Seattle office was the typical 13+ interviews,  
including a day trip to MV where I was told that someone would take me  
to lunch and instead she took me in a conf. room and interviewed me.  
So I ended up not eating at all that day until I returned to the  
airport at 4pm. However, I passed my interviews with flying colors  
and was surprised 3 weeks later when I still hadn't heard from my  
recruiter about the results of the hiring committee meeting. Finally  
he called to tell me that I was rejected because I was currently  
working as a Flight Attendant. A job I had started 4 months prior  
because it was a great opportunity to move into their management group  
but then the airlines started downsizing management and so I applied  
for the Google Travel Sales role instead. However, apparently the  
elitist hiring committee members believed that FA's are stupid and  
there was no way they would be able to work at Google. Lucky for me  
the recruiter agreed it was incredibly sexist and fought with HR to  
bring me on as a temp. Three months later they resubmitted me to the  
committee and had me remove my former job – instead I mentioned that I  
was "traveling" for four months and bingo! I got hired full time. 3+  
years later I was promoted twice and named a Google Luminary! Good  
think Larry is such an excellent judge of character.

I have to say though, that level of bureaucracy remained pretty much  
the whole time I was at Google. I finally left after a lifestyle  
change moved me to Austin and they re-nigged on an offer to move me  
into the Travel Vertical role for which I was promised before the  
move. It's a real bummer because I loved my co-workers and there are  
a ton of great people at Google. But the management has no power to  
influence change because they are micromanaged by the Execs.  
I'm very happy at my new company though – making twice as much and  
enjoying the benefits of a start-up culture again.

From: issara  
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:50:45 -0700 (PDT)  
Local: Fri, May 30 2008 9:50 am  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

I was hired to work in Google's Singapore office. I found out very  
quickly that Google International is not the same as Google-US. The  
offered pay was way too low to survive in Singapore, so I left after I  
got another job offer that I felt was better for me. I really do  
believe that Google is doing some important work with humanitarian  
mapping projects and digitizing libraries. But for me, I felt that  
Google's popular image did not match its actions in the work place,  
and that some of the things they did were not very "Googly."

Issara

From: "Lisa  
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:16:20 -0700  
Local: Fri, May 30 2008 4:16 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

I'm enjoying this group and this thread.

I had a far different hiring experience — it moved too  
quickly! I wasn't actually ready to leave my previous position, but  
when the Google recruiter called, it would have been silly not to talk  
to her.

I had one full day of MV in-person interviews, a few phone  
conversations, and the next thing I know, they're calling me to  
present an offer. In retrospect, I shouldn't have accepted it. I spent  
all of 11 days working at Google before I returned to my previous (now  
current ;-) company.

I wish I had asked more questions and asked to meet the team I'd be  
managing (at least some of them!) before I jumped on board, but  
Google's reputation as an employer is legendary. At the time, I felt  
conflicted, but then I'd think "Google wants me, and everyone knows  
how hard it is to get hired there. I should jump on this opportunity."  
I don't bear any ill will — I think Google is an amazing company, is  
doing some revolutionary things, and is full of smart people. And I  
bought shares in 2004, so I hope they continue to be very successful.  
;-)

Cheers!

Lisa  
From: Pam  
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:39:04 -0700 (PDT)  
Local: Fri, May 30 2008 4:39 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

I have been sitting back, surprised at the level of negativity  
expressed by those on this thread, and wanted to share my very  
different experience. Sure, Google isn't perfect, its management isn't  
perfect, the HR department isn't perfect, etc, but by and large they  
do things better/smarter/friendlier than the vast majority of  
companies out there.

My hiring process back in 2003 was, like some of yours, somewhat drawn  
out, and I was made to contract for almost 4 months before being  
hired, but Google gave me a chance, and I gave Google a chance. And  
I'm so glad.

Forget about the cool products I worked on over the years that are on  
the cutting edge of technology and impacting millions of people. We're  
mostly talking about work/life balance and job satisfaction. I get  
such a kick out of thinking about the incredible stuff I got to do  
while at Google (watch Barack Obama/Al Gore/Hillary Clinton/Colin  
Powell/Malcolm Gladwell/Jimmy Carter speak, go to a trapeze class,  
hear John Legend play in Charlie's cafe, go to a chocolate trufflemaking  
class, ski on Google's dime year after year in Tahoe, to name  
just a few), not to mention enjoy a work environment at Google that  
was informal, comfortable, safe, and supportive — so different from  
the work environments of my friends in other industries or at other  
companies.

I wonder if post-Google bitterness is correlated to when you joined  
and/or how long you were at Google. It seems that it is. Maybe it's  
the memories of Google in the first few years I was there that make it  
it seem magical, but I really do treasure the time I spent at Google.  
I left a few weeks ago, after almost 5 years at the company, because I  
wanted to pursue a markedly different career path. Sure, I had times  
when I was frustrated with the way Google was doing things, or when I  
felt that my particular project, or assignment was lacking, and I  
definitely had managers that I didn't enjoy. But all in all — what a  
freakin' amazing experience!  
—–  
And, separately, regarding the compensation issue, it seems to me that  
Google would do their research and pay market wages high enough to  
attract the best. If good candidates refuse to take the jobs because  
the wages aren't high enough to live on, they'd be forced to raise  
compensation.

From: "Logan  
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:56:47 -0700  
Local: Fri, May 30 2008 4:56 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

I experienced the same painful hiring process all of you did. The  
reputation of Google is why I worked there for three and a half years. I  
took pride in where I worked and the work I was doing. I knew I could get  
paid more elsewhere but the caliber of people to my left and right was  
amazing. I learned a lot and have benefited from the time I spent at  
Google.

When asked by friends and family why I was leaving I came up with an  
automobile analogy.

One auto has a 5 star crash safety rating, with good gas mileage, low  
maintenance costs and good performance. Another, has bluetooth for your  
mobile phone, 10 cup holders, sexy looking instrument panel, premium sound  
system, DVD player and seat warmer but has poor gas mileage, poor  
performance, bad safety rating, expensive maintenance, etc.

Some will make a purchasing decision on what really matters; safety,  
performance, serviceability. Some will make a purchase based on "how many  
cup holders the car has". Google is the car with all the sexy features  
but very little of what really matters. The amenities,extra-curricular(s)  
and conversastion peice of "working for Google" is what keeps most  
working at Google.

My $.02

From: Ted  
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:27:35 -0700  
Local: Fri, May 30 2008 5:27 pm  
Subject: RE: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

My bitterness is almost entirely because of my manager. He was in my  
orientation group in Mt. View and seemed like a good egg at the time. Just  
as Google can be a great place for the software engineer to do great work  
unencumbered, it's also possible for a manger to be a complete jerk  
unencumbered. Tho the other members of the group (that didn't leave sooner)  
thought that they could put up with anything to work at Google they did  
notice my manager's particular irrationality when dealing with me. There  
were only two days of my six months there that I didn't dread going to work.  
My manager made sure that no other manager would talk to me and as soon as  
the head of the office left town he tried to put me on a PIP. Life is too  
short to deal with jerks so I felt I had no choice but to leave.  
I do believe that I could have really enjoyed myself at the home office or  
with a different manager, etc. but I wasn't given the choice of what to work  
on nor who to work for.

-Ted

From: "Greg  
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:29:18 -0400  
Local: Fri, May 30 2008 6:29 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

I wonder how much of a difference there is between  
engineering/non-engineering and MV/non-MV, in addition to the  
old-timer/non-old-timer split.

I started working at Google a while ago as an engineer when there was  
only the Mountain View office. (If I recall correctly, the NY sales  
office opened later that month.) Google certainly seemed like an  
ideal place to work at the time, and if I wanted to be an engineer,  
I'd probably still want to work there. But there were certainly  
issues, even back then, and I believe they've mostly gotten worse as  
the company has grown.

The hiring process:  
Google's hiring process tends to have a lot of false negatives. If I  
had submitted my resume myself, rather than getting recommended by an  
employee, I don't know if I would have gotten in. My GPA was a 3.7,  
and the cutoff (at least at one point in Google's history) was 3.8 (I  
went to a tough school, the 6th 4.0 GPA in its history just graduated  
this year). I honestly don't know if this cap is still there (I  
suspect not) but this is just one way Google arbitrarily cut down on  
the number of people interviewed.

After I had been working, I found out that I was lucky that one of the  
members of my team hadn't interviewed me. My C++ skills weren't  
really all that great, since I hadn't used C++ in a couple of years,  
and I would have totally failed if he had interviewed me. He told me  
that he would have been wrong to do so, since I actually ended up  
replacing him on the team and automating most of what he had been  
doing by hand, so I hope that my example helped make at least one  
interviewer a little more reasonable. But the old-timers certainly  
felt like they had to have tough interviews, and in many cases "tough"  
equated to things like trivia questions or brain teasers, neither of  
which are completely relevant to what people were being interviewed  
for.

The Google lifestyle:  
Food at Mountain View in the early days was great. Things got a bit  
crazy when Charlie was cooking in the same tiny kitchen that he had  
cooked for 70 people in when there were something like 400 people  
eating in the cafe, although the food quality didn't go down nearly as  
much as I would have expected it to. But this was just one of many  
examples of overcrowding in the offices that happened over the years  
at Google. (And honestly, keeping the cooks happy seemed like a good  
idea to me…)

But along with the food came the Google lifestyle: if you were staying  
for dinner, it better be because you were working afterwards. It was  
frowned upon to leave right after dinner. I think a lot of people  
spent quite a bit of time either just before or just after dinner  
hanging out and not really being all that productive, which is nice  
for the mostly 20-something crowd, but I can sympathize with the  
people who have families that didn't fit in. I had my own reasons for  
not wanting to hang out at work, so I never really got that far into  
the Google social scene. And my experience was that the people who  
spent all their time at Google were the ones that ended up on the  
sexier projects or in charge of things. (Admittedly, some of these  
people were also workaholics, and I wasn't willing to give up some of  
my non-work social activities, but there seemed to be a bit of  
favoritism going on as well.)

Engineers and everyone else:  
Unlike most other engineers, I had a job that required me to talk to  
people all over the company. I talked to the lawyers, marketing, PR,  
product managers, executives, engineers… And because I started  
early enough, I also knew quite a few people in sales. As far as  
salary went, my offer was 35% higher than my next highest job offer,  
so I think I lucked out there. That was certainly not the normal  
situation, though. Over the years I talked to plenty of people about  
what they thought about Google's compensation… There's a huge  
discrepancy between engineers and non-engineers. Most of the adwords  
support people I talked to complained a lot about their situation.  
Not only were they generally overqualified for the jobs (given what  
the work actually was, but Google has always prided itself on having  
people with extra education) but they could fairly easily have gotten  
higher-paying jobs elsewhere. The usual reason for sticking around  
that I heard was that after a few years at Google, their resume would  
look a lot better on the job market.

And that's not counting the people who are contractors. I never  
understood why all of the recruiters were contractors, given that  
Google showed no signs of slowing down its hiring. All this meant was  
that a lot of the recruiters had to spend a lot of time training new  
recruiters, since they were replaced so frequently. (This, I think,  
goes at least partway for explaining why the hiring process was  
occasionally a bit slow.)

Management  
My biggest pet peeve was the management, or lack thereof, at Google.  
I went through many managers in my first few years. I ended up having  
at least one manager during this time that was an unpopular manager,  
and because of that, I was told many times over that I shouldn't  
bother trying to get a promotion. When I left, I had never been  
re-slotted. This, in spite of the fact that my technical judgment was  
respected enough that I occasionally delayed launches until their  
logging systems were operating correctly. And in spite of the fact  
that I essentially consulted to other technical groups. I could go on  
about this for a while, but then I might actually sound like I was  
bitter.

Remote offices  
I worked in Mountain View for 3 years before moving to New York.  
Around that time, I started traveling a lot: I had college alumni  
activities in southern California, so I occasionally worked out of  
Santa Monica, and my brother lived in Seattle, so I worked in Kirkland  
a few times. The "Google experience" is substantially different  
outside of Mountain View. And being outside of the Mountain View  
culture bubble makes it that much harder to get taken seriously. I  
honestly have no idea what it's like to work for Google outside of the  
US, but even when you're only 3 time zones away, it's sometimes hard  
to get noticed by Mountain View.

This e-mail has gotten a lot longer than I really meant it to. But my  
point is that there are plenty of good reasons people can have  
negative impressions of working at Google. Just like there are plenty  
of good reasons people have great experiences there.  
—  
Greg

From: "Lilly  
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:36:36 -0700  
Local: Sat, May 31 2008 12:36 am  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

I left to go to do a PhD. I liked the work I was doing at Googlea and, like  
Pam, I treasure the time I had there, but I also left exhausted and  
processing a lot of stress. I joined in June 2003 as an intern and 6 months  
later, my amazing manager, Jen, made me a full-time offer without any  
additional interviews. HR worked with me to make sure I could finish school  
and continue working at Google. I really felt like they had my back and my  
best interests in mind.

I think for me, some of the trouble was the crazy unaccountable product  
strategy processes that would tell you to work on high risk things on the  
one hand, but would hold you back for taking those chance on the other. I  
worked on Google Page Creator from the time it was just a 20% prototype and  
I also spent a lot of time believing in and doing some a lot of work to make  
Google Notebook something successful. I'm not sure taking on those  
high-risk, challenging projects was a good idea in the long run, but nobody  
told me "hey, we don't think this project is really worth the resources."  
I'm sort of a heart-and-soul into project person so this meant that I spent  
a lot of energy trying to good work on high-risk projects I believed in, but  
through the inconsistent support and wavering strategies I had no direct  
control over, I felt like a lot of my energy got wasted.

There was also a big management overhaul on our team about a year before I  
left and I felt like my team spent so much time trying to figure what was  
coming down the pipe next, who was leaving next, etc that it wasted a lot of  
energy. In user-experience design, there are a lot of smart, capable people  
who have to sort of surf the waves of having a really unclear relationship  
with product management.

But on the upside, I really did take advantage of 20% time. In the first two  
years, I really felt rewarded and appreciated for my work and in the last  
two years, I at least felt respected if not rewarded. Many days at work were  
really intellectually stimulating. And despite the management / exec  
culture being weird, I felt like Google's managers are really among the top  
in terms of not being corporate world pillagers.

I had decided I wanted to go grad school in my first year at Google, but it  
was fun enough that I delayed going *twice* (that was a really awkward set  
of deferrals).

But in the end, I was pretty tired of the constant change, the inconsistent  
management, and I wasn't sure if the kinds of people old Google hired —  
wearing many hats and workng butts off to take ownership of project's  
success — is the kind of person new Google needed — people who were better  
able to step in line to keep the company marching under control. I was part  
of the chaos generation.

From: Luqman  
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 01:34:53 -0700 (PDT)  
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2008 2:34 am  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

It looks like most of us have same story to tell….

My case resembles that of Bob ….

It took two months(lesser than others I guess) for my hiring process  
to complete, and I made it clear that I had an offer from IBM in hand  
which was paying me good … but I was offered the same salary as my  
previous employer … which always kept me de-motivated throughout my  
tenure. I joined the job due to company's name and reputation as well  
as I had the option to work in day shifts.

There was no proper mentoring for 6 months and within 9 months of my  
tenure my manager was not happy with my performance, and mgmt always  
stressed on "Putting some Extra Effort" – in other words "Spending  
some extra hours" … this may not be the case at Google-MV but this  
is what it is in India.

If you don't put extra hours then you won't get promoted, no promotion  
means no salary hike.

I feel sad about my decision on choosing Google over IBM … Small  
pay, No work, No Team spirit, No Hike in 12 months, No balance between  
Family Life and work are few things which motivated my move out. I am  
still jobless after 5 moths of leaving Google, but I am happy with my  
decision(I feel like it is better be jobless than work for google as a  
Field Tech).

Coming to the positive side, I enjoyed helping fellow googlers fixing  
their PCs or Laptops and helping them with their queries. But Field  
Techs have to do all the crap apart from some good work.  
I like Logan's example … good decision.

Cheers,  
Luqman.

From: "Marc  
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 09:22:03 +0200  
Local: Sun, Jun 1 2008 1:22 am  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

I agree with Pam. I started working for Google in 2002 in Amsterdam to set  
up the Dutch and Belgium Sales office and these years were the best of my  
life!

I had to wait 9 months before they hired me, but it was definately worth is.

I had only three interviews then, but number three was Omid, so I might have  
been lucky back then. But waiting for 9 months was a challenge as well, but  
I knew at that time that Google was something very special, so I had the  
patience to wait and it was definately worth it!

I agree that the process of hiring is a pain in the behind, but i also agree  
that the hiring process should be hard as Goolge should keep up the process  
hiring people that are smarter than yourself. There aren't many companies in  
the world that have so many smart and ambitious people.

The challenge is to keep up the energy within the company and enterpreneurial  
part and give people the opportunity to grow within the company. I do agree  
that the HR process has always been tough and I do agree that that should  
change. I do think too that Google is in the process of decentralising more  
and providing management with more authority, also ouside of US.  
But don'd forget that Google has existed only for almost 10 years with about  
16,000 employees and a 20B dollar company and then you have growing pains as  
well.

With these numbers and the fact that Google has a model where  
you look closely at teh high performers and the quality of employees is  
extremely high, you have issues where you cannot make everyone happy at the  
same time. It's a lot about numbers as well and we must admit Google is  
pretty good at numbers, right? :-)

Again, I worked for Google for 5.5 years and I had a great time growing from  
a small company of like 500-600 people to 16,000 now.

Again, I agree that HR should be more decentralised and not all be approved  
out of MV as the current long process of approvals from MV and little  
authority from local offices causes pain and time and influences the spirit  
within the company negatively.

And having worked for Google and leaving Google the right way without any  
issues should be a great jump in your career as with Google the knowledge is  
huge and not many other companies I know has this knowledge, so use that as  
good as you can!  
Marc

From: "Phil  
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:38:10 -0700  
Local: Thurs, Jun 5 2008 1:38 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Dan wrote:  
> I'm somewhat tempted to reply with my own list, but I'm curious ..  
> what's going to happen with all this info? Not obviously useful if no  
> one is going to do anything with it (e.g., gather and post a summary  
> back to the board, bring it to someone who cares).

At this point I think that the executive committee knows that there  
are people out there holding these opinions. In fact, I was at a  
couple of TGIFs where Larry and Sergey addressed questions about the  
hiring process and others where other execs talked about why they were  
making it harder for people to switch projects even though we'd been  
bragging externally that it was easy. I thought long and hard about  
how to talk about that during interviews. I think that a big part of  
is is that Googlers are supposed to be totally "A" players who just  
always make things work out well. And there's some truth to that: for  
each of us here with a bitter story to tell there are other people who  
landed in pretty much the exact same situation and ended up loving it  
(and a lot more who put up with it and kept their mouths shut). So,  
until it gets hard for Google to hire top talent, I don't think the  
kind of complaints that have been raised here will become a priority  
at the Googleplex.

There's still a lot of value in this conversation though, if not for  
Google, then for the participants. Those of us who failed to thrive at  
Google are faced with some pretty serious questions about ourselves.  
Just seeing that other people ran into the same issues is a huge  
relief. Google is supposed to be some kind of Nirvana, so if you can't  
be happy there how will you ever be happy? It's supposed to be the  
ultimate font of technical resources, so if you can't be productive  
there how will you ever be productive? The truth is that Google can be  
a really horrible place to work if you happen to run up against its  
shortcomings. Not liking it and/or not being successful there is not a  
good indicator of personal competence (and if you think about it you  
may realize that some Googlers are successful despite being  
incompetent, so it works the other way too.) With so much positive  
press about Google it is very difficult to put a negative experience  
there in perspective. This thread serves to balance the picture and  
gives us a, sometimes badly needed, lens through which to view our  
experience at Google and re-evaluate ourselves.

I think that it's painful for some Google alum to read these posts  
when their own experiences were so positive and their sense of loyalty  
to Google runs so deep. I think that it would be a mistake to become  
cynical about Google. Something truly unique and magical happened  
there and may still be happening for all I know. But the magic was  
neither universal nor unflawed, and the Google experience left some of  
us with open wounds. I was going to say that it would be Googly to be  
respectful of that, but to be honest, Google culture just isn't that  
mature. Not yet anyway. Nevertheless, the most positive thing for  
those of us who are interested in this thread to do is to understand  
and respect the experiences described here. Doing so will, in a small  
way, strengthen our own careers as well as those of the people around  
us. And eventually some little bit of the learning we do here will  
inevitably seep back into Google and do some good after all.

From: Aaron  
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:48:41 -0700 (PDT)  
Local: Thurs, Jun 12 2008 2:48 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

My previous employer was sinking fast, and Google seemed like a good  
opportunity to get out.

First, I was really disappointed with the salary that Google offered.  
During negotiations, they accommodated me a little, but not much. I  
was barely making more than I had been in the midwest, and the  
difference in CA state taxes wiped out almost all of that. Then  
there's rent. My wife and I don't have any debt, we pay cash for our  
cars, we live in a modest apartment, we only have one small child, and  
we don't travel or live a luxurious lifestyle. Yet we were already  
dipping into savings during the second month just to pay the bills.  
Part of it was certainly my fault; I shouldn't have accepted such a  
low offer.

The relocation and hiring bonus' stated values were pre-tax! That was  
a huge unexpected blow to the pocketbook. It may sound strange to  
some, but Google's the only company that has ever done that to me.  
Again, that's mostly my fault; I made a naive assumption.

The relocation company told us it would take 8-12 days to get our  
stuff. It took 14 days. We managed as best we could for almost 2  
weeks with a 1-month-old baby in an apartment with no furniture, no  
extra clothes, and a rental car. Google should have taken more  
responsibility and initiative on this, but they stood very much  
aloof. Their only other option was the corporate housing option (move  
twice!). If I had known it would be this bad, I would have rented my  
own truck for 1/3 of what Google paid the moving company. I can drive  
from Indiana in 3 days; I've done it many times.

Anyway, Google should know that good engineers are in high demand.  
They get their market value, especially in the Bay Area. So after  
only 3 months at Google, I was aggressively recruited by another  
company that offered 2x my base salary (which has been increased  
repeatedly since then). The company also wanted to hire me to do what  
I am most skilled at doing, and I could never say that about Google.  
I took the job. I get invitations to interview at companies regularly  
(Apple contacted me most recently) but I turn them down every time. I  
like what I'm doing, I believe I'm well-paid, and we just released a  
very successful product.

There are nice things about Google. I met some intelligent and good  
people that will be lifelong friends. I got to see Ron Paul speak,  
and I have many fond memories. The bureaucracy and authoritarian  
"gods of coding rules and regulations" were crippling for an  
experienced developer, but are probably just the right thing for  
someone green out of college. To me, the food wasn't that big of a  
deal. It was good, but I'm not much of an eater. However, I was  
really disappointed when the hot chocolate started disappearing from  
the mini-kitchens. I hope that 20 cents a day was worth it to them!  
As a full-time employee I prefer a good salary to graduallyevaporating  
fringe benefits and arbitrarily-sized bonuses. I started  
out in the dot-com boom, and I've seen those empty promises go  
unfulfilled time and time again.

I'm not bitter anymore; just disappointed that Google didn't come  
close to what I thought it would be.

From: Juliette  
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:54:42 -0700  
Local: Fri, Aug 1 2008 11:54 am  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

Google was my first job out of college. I was an English major at a  
prestigious college and was hired to work in HR. That is one of the problems  
I had with Google right there – is it really necessary to hire Ivy League  
graduates to process paperwork? I went from reading Derrida to processing  
"Status Change Request Forms" for X employees to go on paid leave. The term  
"Status Change Request Form" will forever haunt me.

The company is – unquestionably – an amazing business model. Despite the  
gripes some people may have at Google, employees are Google are coddled much  
more than at most other companies. I left after working at Google about six  
months (left without even thinking of a bonus) because my abilities were  
entirely underutilized and, of the three managers to whom I was assigned,  
two were complete nightmares. One was about six feet tall, and I secretly  
referred to her as Medusa or Medea, depending on my mood. But that is  
neither here nor there. Another reason I left was because I felt overmanaged  
in every conceivable way. I shared, for a large part of my experience, the  
same office as said manager of mythological Greek she-monsters.

I really have no hard feelings toward the firm. When I tell people I worked  
at Google, most people are incredulous that I would have left after such a  
short time. I want to make this response as objective and as helpful as  
possible, so I have three suggestions for the firm in how to prevent cases  
like mine from happening.

1) Avoid hiring creative writing/art/film production majors into highly  
structured and highly interpersonal roles like HR. I spent most of my  
college life writing short stories – alone. Perhaps not the best indication  
that I care or even know how to be productive in a role that requires  
constant client-facing time. My manager used to always pride herself on  
being excellent at "customer service," which she often said was her favorite  
aspect of HR. Service ANYTHING gives me the chills, as it does – I am sure –  
for most highly left-brain types.

2) There is Google quirky, and there is too weird to ever fit into a  
corporate mold. Identify.

3) Make it easier for people to switch managers if the fit is egregious

4) Give a more accurate representation of Google to potential employees  
BEFORE you hire them. All I knew before starting at Google was "#1 Place to  
Work According to Forbes" and "Free Gourmet Food" and "Unlimited Sick Days"  
and "We Want You to Be Googley!" Like, properly, echoing in my brain. My  
twenty-two year old greedy magpie self was wholly drawn in by the idea of  
having sashimi anytime I wanted without paying a dime. But as nice as it is  
having a cushy 401K and unlimited sick days, I was not willing to sacrifice  
my personal happiness and career fulfillment, not even for all the free  
kombucha I could drink.

In short – I left for personal reasons listed above. Now is the time for my  
shameless self-plug. After bumming it around for 5 months doing odd jobs  
(like, properly odd… I did stints in PR, dog walking, babysitting,  
modeling) I finally landed the job I'd always dreamed of, which is to write  
for a living.

I now run my own fashion blog and host an online fashion "web show" at  
If anyone out there is interested in fashion,  
even as a passing thing, it might be of some interest.

-Juliette

From: Scott  
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 12:37:03 -0700 (PDT)  
Local: Mon, Oct 6 2008 1:37 pm  
Subject: Re: So… Why'd you left, guys? I mean, seriously.

Hi there,  
Well I left Google three months ago so the scars are still fresh! I  
worked in sales and a bit of sales management (will explain) in London  
between 2004 – 2008.

I think with all these things, its the little bricks that make the  
house. I have yet to find a perfect job, so I was pretty bummed when I  
was pitched one when I joined.

Here is my two penneth  
Management – I strongly believe there were a lot of people who did  
very little in the way of people management. Due to the aggressive  
growth of Google, a lot of managers essentially learnt nothing about  
the products or issues with staff. Instead they 'managed up' covering  
their own patch or careers. I averaged consistent high OKR scores  
(despite the managing of the curve nonsense that creates more  
subjectivity than objectivity) and despite having 5 managers in 3  
years (all of whom knew nothing about my vertical) I watched newer  
employees join talk utter rubbish, speak in non sensical management  
talk, piss off agencies/clients (I know because they used to call me  
laughing) and get promoted.

Mostly because they loved doing business in a suit, if you were not  
wearing a suit and did a lot of brown nosing you were screwed. I did  
neither…hehehe – Maybe that has something to do with a change of  
culture. If that is the case then the rules to be Googley should  
change. It sometimes felt like the rules to being Googlgey were a PR  
strategy.

Culturally – In London I just felt the soul of the place change. A lot  
of people I worked with or knew there were deeply unhappy with the  
lack of fun (Still are , but they won't talk to management because  
they know it is not important- see above). It all seemed to be  
contrived and a little false. Of course nothing stays the same but you  
when working with a team where politics, egos and bullshit didn't  
exist and suddenly it did, you can't help but feel confused.  
You read so much about how amazing it is to work at Google and for the  
first two years it was. I was empowered, promoted, treated with  
respect and honesty. Before I left it just was a place full of quiet  
moans, talented people being undermined and a structure that created  
hostility and politics.

I loved my time there. It was a real education. Not to mention my very  
risque TGIF routines in London. Actually I think that maybe while I  
was ignored. I was not going to compromise my personality by dressing  
like a business consultant. I was serious at my job without wearing my  
suit.

The food was amazing though.

Actually I have just read this back and it now appears I should of  
left years ago. Whatever – Google you have some amazing people there –  
start listening and responding. Wisdom of crowds….cough….splutter

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