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# No One Knows What the F*** They're Doing (or "The...

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* [No One Knows What the F*** They're Doing (or "The 3 Types of Knowledge")][13]
  

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## [No One Knows What the F*** They’re Doing (or “The 3 Types of Knowledge”)][13]

Be sure to check out [my follow-up to this post][16], clarifying and addressing a few misinterpretations that have been making their way around the internet.

## Feeling Like a Fraud

![image][17]

Have you ever received praise, or even an award, for being great at something despite having no clue what you’re doing? Do you feel like a fraud, wondering what sort of voodoo you’ve unwittingly conjured up to make people think you know what you’re doing, when the reality is quite the contrary?

I recently had a conversation with my girlfriend (going to school for her nursing degree) when she expressed her confusion with some praise she had received from her professor. Her professor had told her that she was the best nursing student she had had in years. “But how the hell could that be true?” she asked me. See, she sometimes struggles studying, is often worried about doing poorly on exams, and stresses about all of the things she doesn’t quite understand or can’t quite remember. At the same time,  she sees other people stroll into test-time confident and carefree. She sees others never asking questions and always seeming to just “get it”. By comparison, how could she possibly be any professor’s “best student in years?”

I could see she was distressed. Lucky for her, I could relate. In fact, one of many similar experiences I’ve encountered occurred just over a year ago. I had entered a competition called the [Great Lakes Entrepreneur’s Quest (GLEQ)][18], which is a business plan competition for new business ideas and up-and-coming companies. My company had not won any awards at the competition that year. There were over 100 companies that entered, with nearly 500 total participants. Then during the awards ceremony they announced a brand new award that they were going to start giving out, the Spirit of Entrepreneurship Award, which would go to one individual who they felt exhibited the qualities of a great entrepreneur outside of just being able to write a good business plan. And the winner of the inaugural award was me. I was startled, confused, and amazed. If they had said my name half a second earlier, the person in front of me would have had a mouthful of Coke in their hair.

How could I win such an award, being in a room with so many great entrepreneurs and so many exciting companies and business ideas? There were companies in the competition already making a million dollars in yearly revenue (eligibility for the competition required that your company be making less that $3 million annually). By comparison, I wasn’t even making enough to quit my day job yet. I had to fake a doctor’s appointment that day just to attend the awards ceremony. Don’t these other people know what they’re doing more than I?

The answer to that question is the title of this post. No one knows what the fuck they’re doing. Not me, not those guys making bank, not anyone.

## The 3 Types of Knowledge

To really understand how it is that no one knows what they’re doing, we need to understand the three fundamental categories of information.

There’s the _shit you know_, the _shit you know you don’t know_, and the _shit you don’t know you don’t know_.

![NOTE: this chart is certainly not to scale; the red slice is unimaginably large][19]

_Note: this chart is not to scale; the red slice is unimaginably large._

### Imagine being lost in the woods.

![image][20]An example of _shit you know _would be knowing that it’s okay to eat an apple should you come across an apple tree (however unlikely that may be).

![image][21]An example of the _shit you know you don’t know_ would be wondering if you can eat these berries. As a result, you may decide to play it safe and keep moving, or you may decide to eat one now, see if you get sick, and if not, eat some more.

![image][22]For an example of _shit you don’t know that you don’t know_, imagine if you were raised in an extremely sheltered environment, and you were never taught that some plants are poisonous. Finding yourself suddenly stranded in the wild, you would probably just start eating plants at random as you become hungry, without thinking twice. Pretty soon you would likely fall sick and die from dysentery or mycetism.

As illustrated by this example, you can see that the only dangerous category is the _shit you don’t know that you don’t know _(excluding extreme situations of life and death, where only the first category [_shit you know_] could save you). The same goes for any profession.

If I’m an engineer designing a bridge, I know that I need to account for that location’s climate when choosing the materials for building the bridge… this is stuff I know. I may not know exactly which materials have stress limits within boundaries set by the climate, but I can look it up… this is stuff I know that I don’t know. However, if I were a Veterinarian, and someone asked me to design a bridge, I may not even realize that different materials are affected differently by environmental factors… this would be stuff I don’t know that I don’t know. And in this situation, someone would probably die.

In my girlfriend’s case, say she’s a nurse that needs to administer a drug to a patient. If she knows that the prescribed drug reacts negatively with another drug the patient is taking, she knows not to administer the drug. If she remembers that the drug has twenty side effects and tends to react with other drugs, she knows to either look it up or ask someone else who knows, perhaps a doctor, before administering it. The only dangerous scenario could be not realizing that there could be any side-effects or reactions, and thus administering the drug without any second thoughts. Again, the only dangerous category is the _shit you don’t know that you don’t know_.

## Wisdom and the Art of Being _Not Dangerous_

Along these lines, “wisdom” may be defined as the ability to not be dangerous. So what then is the point of education and experience? Your professors and teachers (and typical exam structure) would lead you to believe that you must cram as much information as possible into the _shit you know_ category.

![image][23]

I am going to be bold and suggest that this is wrong. The goal isn’t to put as much as possible into the first category, it’s to take as much as possible out of the third category.

![image][24]

Now whether this means putting it into the first or the second category isn’t as important, as long as it’s not in the third category. In other words, the goal is to be _not dangerous_.

## Everyone is as Clueless as You, If Not More

This is where the disconnect is. This is why you, my girlfriend, and myself at times feel like a fraud amidst praise and recognition. We feel that we have no clue what we’re doing, yet we see others confident and able. Surely they’re the ones that deserve the praise and recognition.

Here’s the secret though. Those other people fall into one of two categories, and neither one of those categories is more knowledgeable or able than you are.

1) They have figured out everything written here, and thus, are on an even playing field as you. They deserve it no more (and no less) than you do. They (and you) have a very large _shit you know you don’t know_ category. Not only that, but they (and you) can only imagine how immense the _shit you don’t know you don’t know_ category is (since it’s impossible to know by virtue of being the stuff you don’t know about). It’s easy to see how small the s_hit you know_ category is by comparison. And it is this awareness that makes them (and you) feel so clueless at times.

2) They legitimately think they know everything. The thing is, they don’t. These people are usually very egotistical (not to be confused with simply having a healthy ego) and don’t realize how little they really know. In other words, they have far more in the third category (_shit they don’t know they don’t know_), and far less in the second category (_shit they know they don’t know_). The first category is probably more or less the same.

One thing to note about this second type of confident people is that they are dangerous in two ways. For one, they exhibit a much larger third category as discussed above. They can be likened to a stereotypical teenager in thinking they know everything and not realizing how much there really is to know. However, unlike teenagers, they have a tendency to make others think they know what they’re doing, which makes others tend to rely on them. It causes others to put them in charge of things it _seems_ like they know how to handle. And of course, since these people legitimately think they know how to handle these things, they are likely not to look it up or defer to people who actually know. As you can imagine, this causes their potential to be dangerous much more real than that of teenagers.

## The Reason You Feel Like a Fraud

The real reason you feel like a fraud is because you have been successful in taking a lot of information out of the third category and put it into the second category; you know of a lot of stuff you don’t know. The good news is that this makes you very _not dangerous_. The bad news is that it also makes you feel dumb and helpless a lot of the time.

## Relax, Be Realistic, You Can Do It

I hope that this helps if you find yourself sometimes feeling conflicted, recognizing the contradiction between your abilities and what other people say about your abilities. When you find yourself in a situation where you don’t know what you’re doing, don’t be afraid to ask for help. Don’t ever feel ashamed for not understanding something, even it seems like it should be obvious; if you don’t understand it, then it’s not obvious, plain and simple.

![image][25]In fact, if you never feel clueless, and you always know better than everyone else, please let me know, so that I can be aware of how dangerous you are.

## _Update: Rumsfeld, Dunning-Kruger, The Black Swan, and Hacker News_

Since writing this, I’ve been pointed to Donald Rumsfeld’s poem, _The Unknown_, which quite concisely describes the _3 Types of Knowledge_ I’ve written of here.

> **The Unknown  
**As we know,   
There are known knowns.   
There are things we know we know.   
We also know   
There are known unknowns.   
That is to say   
We know there are some things   
We do not know.   
But there are also unknown unknowns,   
The ones we don’t know   
We don’t know. 
> 
> _—Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing_

Reformatted by [The Slate][26].

Another related idea that has since been pointed out to me is the[ Dunning-Kruger Effect][27], which describes a bias in people’s consciousness in which they reach erroneous conclusions and lack the ability to realize or recognize it.

Also, I’ve been told that [The Black Swan, by Nassim Nicholas Taleb][28], though it discusses the impact and improbability of random events and uncertainty in history, also describes some similar ideas. I have not yet read this book though, so I cannot comment much beyond that.

And for some really good relavent discussion on this post, check out the [thread on Hacker News][29].

## _Update: Sub-categories of Knowledge_

As a few people have pointed out in the comments and [on Hacker News][30], there are also a few sub-categories of knowledge that are worth mentioning.

_Shit you don’t know you know_:

This is most closely a sub-category of the shit you know you know (1st category), but for one detail… you don’t realize that you know it. This category delves into the Freudian theories of the subconscious.

_Shit you know you don’t know *anymore*_, a.k.a. the shit you know you forgot:

This is a sub-category of the _shit you know you don’t know_ (2nd category). As has been humorously pointed out, this is one of the main ways your second category grows to its overwhelming size as you get older.

_Shit you think you know, but don’t:_

This is a sub-category of the _shit you don’t know you don’t know_ (3rd category). This is the most dangerous of all knowledge. This is mis-knowledge.

## _Update: Comments are Disappearing_

As many have pointed out, the comments keep disappearing from this post. There have been MANY great comments, and I’m working with Disqus to get this issue resolved, so that they show up again. The comments are NOT being deleted, and hopefully they’ll be back up shortly.

As of now (Feb 18, 2010), this post has received over 150 great comments and over 750 reactions on Twitter. However, Disqus seems to be experiencing a lot of problems and isn’t displaying them on this page.

Update 2: The comments are fixed!

Thank you everyone for all of your awesome feedback.

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